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Evolutionary Theory
An Esalen Invitational Conference
October 5 to 10, 2003

Western Perspectives on Self, Subjectivity, and Intersubjectivity
Steven Johnson

On Monday afternoon author Steven Johnson addressed some of the issues surrounding the difference between the mind and the brain. In his forthcoming book Mind Wide Open Johnson admits that he is not about to solve the qualia issue, or the hard problem of consciousness. Nonetheless, he still thinks there is interesting science occurring today that is looking into the nature of the mind and brain. One thorny issue in mind/brain science is how the human self is related to the brain. Johnson thinks we need "both/and thinking" on this topic. He cited his own writing when he said, "I am me and a big ball of neurons." Johnson thinks there is a distinct selfhood that is over and above the mere mechanism of the brain, even if the two are intimately related in some fashion that has still escaped neuroscientists. Johnson said that one interesting thing that he learned while researching his book was that super intelligent people don’t necessarily have "super brain modules" in the sense of cognitive scientist Steven Pinker. Rather, Johnson now thinks they just have very well-orchestrated brains. The scientific issue has changed from the question of what materials are different from brain to brain to how the organization is different from brain to brain. Neuroscience is just now starting to focus its attention on this more architectural aspect involved in each brain’s unique organization.

In response to some of Johnson’s ideas on selfhood, Jay Ogilvy said that he thinks that human subjectivity is intimately connected to narrativity. Ogilvy pointed out that in his observation of monological science, subjectivity is portrayed as existing only in the dis-embodied and thinking individual. In his own stereoscopic vision of science, the self instead becomes constituted by its history, context, and relationships. The self is a node in a field, or a network of relationships. And the self is produced through an ongoing narrative of itself.

Gordon Wheeler emphasized the cultural embeddedness of all subjectivity and selfhood. Wheeler is particularly interested in how a new public narrative for the human self can move us beyond the selfish gene myth that accords with the West’s hyper-individualism. Wheeler’s research in developmental psychology has led him to the view that the human self is much more intersubjectively situated than most evolutionary theorists think. In the near future we might say "man the relater" instead of "man the hunter."

With respect to when individuality and subjectivity first evolved, Evan Thompson said that the notion of an individual should be tightly connected to the idea of selection. Thompson said that he thinks it is a mistake to apply the notion of selection too broadly, as Dan Dennett has in Darwin’s Dangerous Idea, in which he writes that evolution is simply an algorithmic process applicable in any sphere. Thompson suggested that only a self-maintained and self-produced biological identity that demonstrates interest in the world (from Spinoza’s notion of konetus) should be considered a self. That self’s interest in the world is a proto-form of desire proper. Francisco Varela called this "biological autonomy." Stu Kauffman calls the beings that display it "autonomous agents."


Conferences Menu | Summary Home
Conference Introduction and Overview |  A New Way of "Explaining" Evolution |  Ontological Emergence and the Failure of Reductionism |  A Natural Hierarchy of Dispositions and Nondual Co-Emergence  |  Western Perspectives on Self, Subjectivity, and Intersubjectivity |  Buddhist and Phenomenological Perspectives on Mind and Self |  Evolution and the Extra-ordinary Capacities of Body and Mind |  The Challenges and Rewards in Science and Spirituality Dialogues |  Teleology and Purpose in Evolution (Telos)  |  Conclusion: The Who, What, Where, Why, and When of Value  | 

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